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	<title>Comments on: FAT DAN&#8217;s Thoughts on: Heavy Rain</title>
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		<title>By: FAT DAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>FAT DAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 14:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I now have to replay this, or at least the ending, to get the "hey you didn't suck and get all the wrong killed" ending.</description>
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		<title>By: FAT DAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>FAT DAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 14:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GasFace says:
I finished Heavy Rain this weekend. I loved it but had a problem with two glaring plot holes. I have yet to read Dans critique, and will right again after i do.

FAT DAN says:
My Critique was more of a "fuck... some one else play this so I can critique it and we can talk all about the stuff I can't talk about yet because no one else has finished it"

GasFace says:
I finished it on Sat. The two things that bothered me were The fact that you were controlling Scott the whole time in the clock fixers store, and yet somehow Scott is the one who killed him. If I remember correctly, the old guys goes out back and you still control Scott. Then all of a sudden he is dead. Also the guy fighting Norman in the club is not big enough to be Scott.

Also the whole forgetting about the blackouts and Ethan waking up with origami figures

The game hooked me as well. I wont be playing for other endings though. Too much tedium to play again. I saved the kid and had a relationship with Madison.

Good enough for me. Good Guy ending i guess.

PS. I loved the blunder trophy when i killed the religious guy. Big Woops, reminded me of pulp fiction. "oh damn, i just shot Marvin in the face!"

FAT DAN says:
Haha, I ended up not killing the religious guy. I thought it might have been a trap, and i really wanted to shoot the other cop, because he was such a dick.

The guy fighting Jayden was totally big enough. You are just stuck on the silhouette of Shelby with the trench coat.  I had to reply watch scenes of the clock repair shop to figure that other part out. You are NOT always in control of Shelby.  There is a part when you have to go answer the phone. Then the old guy goes into the back room and a cut scene plays where Lauren is playing with the music box. THEN you go and check on the guy.  The part that bothered me was that I know I cleaned everything off, and we leave. the for no reason explained, we are in the police station going "we left because we wanted to avoid sitting here for 4 hours explaining that we are innocent" "oh. ok... you can go now". Zero consequence... awkward scene.... and waste of time.

There were soooo many plot holes.  Ethan's blackouts never explained outside of "he was in a coma for 6th months" implying that there were some lingering effects.  But that doesn't explain why he wakes up in front of the same warehouse, nor why he's holding an origami figure.

Also, not sure how your game played out, but in my game, after Madison gets out of the Shelby's apartment she has to call someone to let them know who it was, with the choices being Ethan or Jayden.  She never even MET Jayden, how does she know to call him?  You can even select to call him and she'll think something before you are asked to confirm your choice. She said "I have to call Jayden, he's the only one I trust".  WTF? All this trust in someone that you don't even know exist, much less met!

My ending had 3 of the 4 dead.  I screwed up on the Madison Motorcycle scene when she's trying to convince them that Ethan is not the killer, so she got arrested.  Jayden died by getting knocked out with a sledgehammer to the head fighting Shelby on the conveyor belt. Shelby stepped off of it while Jayden rolled along until his body was dumped into the giant chipper/grinder thing.  Because Madison was in cuffs in a police car, and Jayden dead, there was no one to stop the cops from shooting Ethan.  They had a sniper take him out.... and then they all opened fire on him and shot him about 20 times.  His son watched from just inside the door.   The epilogue had a report saying that Ethan was killed in a police incident that is under investigation, and the body (chopped up body?) of FBI Agent Jayden was found at the same scene, and that the identity of the Origami Killer is still unknow (which is crap, because Madison is alive an knows who it is. They can go and search the burnt out apartment).  Madison writes a book about it, but is challenged by a supposedly new killer, who you don't see ("perhaps you need a more vicious target" or something like that. I SMELL SEQUAL!).  I was able to save Lauren for the car, so in the epilogue after beating Jayden, Shelby is just walking up to Lauren in the street (how she found him? I don't know, since he doesn't have an apartment anymore).  She goes "You were never hired by the other families. I called all of them. You were just collecting the evidence from them.  I swore to you that I intended to kill the bastard myself. I still do". Then holds a magnum up to his face. It cuts to black as you hear the gun shot.

GasFace says:
Yeah, my ending was way different. Jayden seemed to die becasue of ari overdose. Shelby was shot by ethan, when shelby was stalking madison at the plant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GasFace says:<br />
I finished Heavy Rain this weekend. I loved it but had a problem with two glaring plot holes. I have yet to read Dans critique, and will right again after i do.</p>
<p>FAT DAN says:<br />
My Critique was more of a &#8220;fuck&#8230; some one else play this so I can critique it and we can talk all about the stuff I can&#8217;t talk about yet because no one else has finished it&#8221;</p>
<p>GasFace says:<br />
I finished it on Sat. The two things that bothered me were The fact that you were controlling Scott the whole time in the clock fixers store, and yet somehow Scott is the one who killed him. If I remember correctly, the old guys goes out back and you still control Scott. Then all of a sudden he is dead. Also the guy fighting Norman in the club is not big enough to be Scott.</p>
<p>Also the whole forgetting about the blackouts and Ethan waking up with origami figures</p>
<p>The game hooked me as well. I wont be playing for other endings though. Too much tedium to play again. I saved the kid and had a relationship with Madison.</p>
<p>Good enough for me. Good Guy ending i guess.</p>
<p>PS. I loved the blunder trophy when i killed the religious guy. Big Woops, reminded me of pulp fiction. &#8220;oh damn, i just shot Marvin in the face!&#8221;</p>
<p>FAT DAN says:<br />
Haha, I ended up not killing the religious guy. I thought it might have been a trap, and i really wanted to shoot the other cop, because he was such a dick.</p>
<p>The guy fighting Jayden was totally big enough. You are just stuck on the silhouette of Shelby with the trench coat.  I had to reply watch scenes of the clock repair shop to figure that other part out. You are NOT always in control of Shelby.  There is a part when you have to go answer the phone. Then the old guy goes into the back room and a cut scene plays where Lauren is playing with the music box. THEN you go and check on the guy.  The part that bothered me was that I know I cleaned everything off, and we leave. the for no reason explained, we are in the police station going &#8220;we left because we wanted to avoid sitting here for 4 hours explaining that we are innocent&#8221; &#8220;oh. ok&#8230; you can go now&#8221;. Zero consequence&#8230; awkward scene&#8230;. and waste of time.</p>
<p>There were soooo many plot holes.  Ethan&#8217;s blackouts never explained outside of &#8220;he was in a coma for 6th months&#8221; implying that there were some lingering effects.  But that doesn&#8217;t explain why he wakes up in front of the same warehouse, nor why he&#8217;s holding an origami figure.</p>
<p>Also, not sure how your game played out, but in my game, after Madison gets out of the Shelby&#8217;s apartment she has to call someone to let them know who it was, with the choices being Ethan or Jayden.  She never even MET Jayden, how does she know to call him?  You can even select to call him and she&#8217;ll think something before you are asked to confirm your choice. She said &#8220;I have to call Jayden, he&#8217;s the only one I trust&#8221;.  WTF? All this trust in someone that you don&#8217;t even know exist, much less met!</p>
<p>My ending had 3 of the 4 dead.  I screwed up on the Madison Motorcycle scene when she&#8217;s trying to convince them that Ethan is not the killer, so she got arrested.  Jayden died by getting knocked out with a sledgehammer to the head fighting Shelby on the conveyor belt. Shelby stepped off of it while Jayden rolled along until his body was dumped into the giant chipper/grinder thing.  Because Madison was in cuffs in a police car, and Jayden dead, there was no one to stop the cops from shooting Ethan.  They had a sniper take him out&#8230;. and then they all opened fire on him and shot him about 20 times.  His son watched from just inside the door.   The epilogue had a report saying that Ethan was killed in a police incident that is under investigation, and the body (chopped up body?) of FBI Agent Jayden was found at the same scene, and that the identity of the Origami Killer is still unknow (which is crap, because Madison is alive an knows who it is. They can go and search the burnt out apartment).  Madison writes a book about it, but is challenged by a supposedly new killer, who you don&#8217;t see (&#8221;perhaps you need a more vicious target&#8221; or something like that. I SMELL SEQUAL!).  I was able to save Lauren for the car, so in the epilogue after beating Jayden, Shelby is just walking up to Lauren in the street (how she found him? I don&#8217;t know, since he doesn&#8217;t have an apartment anymore).  She goes &#8220;You were never hired by the other families. I called all of them. You were just collecting the evidence from them.  I swore to you that I intended to kill the bastard myself. I still do&#8221;. Then holds a magnum up to his face. It cuts to black as you hear the gun shot.</p>
<p>GasFace says:<br />
Yeah, my ending was way different. Jayden seemed to die becasue of ari overdose. Shelby was shot by ethan, when shelby was stalking madison at the plant.</p>
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		<title>By: unclejoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>unclejoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 00:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read somewhere (but definitely heard in Zero Punctuation) that there are tough choices you have to make in this game, really tough choices.  care to divulge?  I'm curious but don't want to scour message boards.  

From what I played of Indigo Prophecy (I reached a point in the game that I somehow quickly passed through what the commends were and was essentially stuck), I enjoyed that.  This is probably a game I'd enjoy but likely because you can just be a jerk to everyone.  I'd make the guy drink instead of playing basketball with his son, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read somewhere (but definitely heard in Zero Punctuation) that there are tough choices you have to make in this game, really tough choices.  care to divulge?  I&#8217;m curious but don&#8217;t want to scour message boards.  </p>
<p>From what I played of Indigo Prophecy (I reached a point in the game that I somehow quickly passed through what the commends were and was essentially stuck), I enjoyed that.  This is probably a game I&#8217;d enjoy but likely because you can just be a jerk to everyone.  I&#8217;d make the guy drink instead of playing basketball with his son, etc.</p>
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